How many devotees in iskcon

Its all money, sex n slavery politics. Some body getting ill treated has got nothing to do with Lord Krishna in a population of 1. Do good deeds to get good results For wrong deeds face results in this janma or future janmas Punarapi maranam punarapi jananam.

Can you imagine the bad karma such a false criminal guru will accumulate for himself? He and the devotees of such a false guru will all go to hell and I am sure mataji Vetern will receive the mercy of Krishna and Srila Prabhupada our jagad guru the only guru of Iskcon.

Please file a case and help us get free from the clutches of such criminals. They destroy everyone around them. Dear Mataji. You are a blessing. You are a true servant of Krishna. Please stay strong. You are correct. Actually Krishna keeps the worst hellish planet especially reserved for these so-called gurus who are actually engaged in the guru business for some personal benefit.

So these bogus gurus are in for a terrible surprise at the time of death. So now I got it. It is best to remain a humble devotee of Srila Prabhupada and follow the instructions we get from him in our daily life. Remember pedophiles and psychopaths are always gravitating toward groups with easy access to children and women. It happens even in Child protective services where children are being abused by the very people who are hired to help them.

But there is now a long time that I wanted to express my view on his work, as obviously, I do not agree all the time about his purports, that we can find in say the Gita:.

Everything is just one direction with him. This is a bit sad in my opinion. I am a firm believer of a balance in everything. Many other people I know, bless everything they reach, get, and live a life without renouncing success, because they do not sink into excess and compulsion. Also, how can sex enjoyment is that dirty? It is not. No need to act like a Christian fanatic, who see the evil in everything, only because this person has no self control.

This is wrong. This is a wonderful thing for those who have chosem this path, and I respect it, but to discourage the rest of the world by proselytizing is wrong. I am not sure who you have been talking to about Krishna consciousness but you seem to have got the wrong impression. There is no need to move into a temple to become Krishna conscious and sex life within marriage for having Krishna conscious children is certainly permitted. There is nothing sad about Krishna consciousness.

In fact quite the opposite. Everyone is sad in the material world but when you take to Krishna consciousness you enter an ever-increasing ocean of transcendental bliss. That is the opposite to sad.

Devotees are always happy and their happiness is always increasing. However to advance in spiritual life we need to renounce material sense gratification. These two things are opposites and can not exist simultaneously. So we can not be enjoying sense gratification and making spiritual advancement at the the same time. It is not possible. So there are regulative principles: no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication. You may think it is difficult to give up these things, but for a devotee it is not difficult.

A devotee practicing Krishna consciousness is enjoying a higher pleasure, a higher taste. So if you are enjoying a very great pleasure then you can easily give up things that the materialists accept as pleasurable. Actually these things are not pleasurable. Sex is not pleasurable, eating dead animals is not pleasurable, getting drunk and getting stoned is not pleasurable, and gambling is not pleasurable.

Because devotees are enjoying a higher spiritual pleasure they have no interest in these lower things. They do not see them as pleasurable and do not feel they are missing anything because they do not engage in them. It is something you need to experience yourself to understand. Hello, hare krishna. I am part of iskcon and firstly would like to thank all those who shared views. I would like to express my hearthfelt symphaty and beg to read on my views, in summary, being in iskcon.

ISKCON really seems to be badly hit by philantrophic interests… the many seminars, meetings, councilling, systems all reflect how leadership had fallen. The generation is stressed in so many cases.

There is no devotee care… providing basic life support where devotees can live close to the temple and to each other. Temple presidentssp are scared to deal with resident devotees. LWithout this family spirit, many devotees will continue to suffer.

Devotees are killed by banditsrapes and no responsibity taken. Please organize kc communities. Behave like leaders aand not sheep. Dont depend on mundane protection. Devotees though are special because they are trying, but sad to say their efforts are barely maintaining their own spirituality. How many new comers stay for 6 months. Movement is not just to creep or crawl, but to be dynamic. I must express my thank you for all that you have done, but please inspire devotees to life resident at the temple.

Thats where they are safe and great things can maanifest. These big temples are secondary… use the resources wisely and focus on devotees life…. Iskon have become the place of buissness, where in the name of GOD they all are making money. But this OMG is the worst thing to watch. This OMG gives so many misconceptions and makes a joke of everything related to God and is insulting to Krishna and His devotees.

Just read the books of Srila Prabhupada and chant Hare Krishna. And today I have decided that I am out of it. Prabhupada wanted to bring money to India by preaching it abroad. But it did not only bring money, but dirtiness too. Western and Russian girls are living like prostitutes in Holy Vrindavan. They provide very easy and free sex to indians and so on. So morality is going down day by day. Indian men think that for all women having sex is just a fun and they can use anyone.

So I think normal parents should keep their children away from this society. In my own experience.. I visited Vrindavan many times. And as all devotee women I wanted to have a Krishna Conscious family.

When I met a marathi devotee living in Hawaii Adidev Das. I thought I found an ideal devotee to create a family. When he wanted to kiss me i refused and told him about values in my country and asked him never touch me unless he is sure about the serious relationships. And he promised me. He held Jamuna river and full moon as a witness to his love and promises. He was teaching me BG and i was worshipping him as God.

Then he told me to visit India for Gaura Purnima and go to Mayapur with him. And he told he wanted to know me more. When I went there he introduced me to his brothers family and then took to his parents who live in a village in Ratnagiri.

All seemed to good enough. So fully trusting him I allowed him to haave sex with me. It was first time for me. I thought we will be together forever and such a man can not cheat me. But after I came back to my country he started avoiding me.

Then my one friend from Delhi seeing our tgether photos told me that he is just a jerk and cheated many girls. He gave me his exs names. I found them and asked. He always chose the best virgin girls, use them and then throw. It was a real shock for me. When I asked him, then why did you touch me?

I was a virgin. He told it is my life and I can do with my life what I want. It was end of the world for me. I wanted to kill myslef. But could not because of my family. This man lived sex life with a Ukrainian girl called Shyamala Gopa Kishori for 8 years. When he wanted he left her and went to others. She was always ready to serve his lust. So this types of bitches teach men such a moral. And then I opened his real face to his all community.

Guess what he did? He, just to show that he is a saintly man, went back to that bitch again. And they got married 1 month ago. I know Adidev Das will never change.

He married just to prove that he is true person. But he forgets something. The tears of the girls whose lives he spoilt will surely make his life hell! I complained about this to GBC and many gurus. Noone cared. All said that it was my fault. This is all lie.

This society is for money and sex only. If you need help I can talk to anyone and explain all I have seen. I am 29 years old. They have disconnected themselves from Srila Prabhupada and therefore disconnected themselves from Krishna. So they have no power to help you in your quest for spiritual advancement. Srila Prabhupada is living in his books. This is the secret of success. You are true but vaisnavam never fails. When my Indians entered iskcon everything started especially advaithas smarthas mayavathis and always they always they are against vaishnavam.

Also many times they are actually mayavadis and do not agree with the Vaisnava philosophy at all and they create havoc preaching their bogus philosophies in the guise of ISKCON devotees. Astha ji namaskar. I am63 years old pensioner. The plight of shyamala,Ukrainian girl is heart rendering.

Its always better to file a FIR with all your possible facts and proven records in the nearest police station india where this fellow lives at mayapur or whatever for cheating on the context of marriage and asaulting you mentally and physically. I sympathize with you. Like presenting non-devotees, Lord shiva, etc in bad form inspite of knowing that call are forms of Krishna… What all happened to you is extremely bad and they have spoiled their karma by disrespecting a devotee…god will show them their true place one day.

Dear sister I am devotee of Krishna and am from India, the birth place of Krishna. I am very sad for all these things. Parents of bhagwan Krishna were prisoners and sisters and brothers of Krishna were killed when they were just born.

Main thing is what we learn from life because that will decide your path of life. In bhagwat Gita Krishna killed thousands of demons and bad people and encourage Arjuna to fight against evil people and assure him that he Arjuna wii win. Only by chanting his name and not following his teachings will be meaningless and its proof is in Mahabharat according which Soodama great devotee of Krishna, who was poor and always chants name of Krishna, only gets physical gain like money, palace e.

Stop crying fight against crime you will helped by Krishna. Life is full of struggles faith in Krishna does not mean to forget your duty. Following your duties without thinking its result is karma yoga , greatest teaching of Krishna….. Those are the actiones which decides our future lives too. This doesnt give a license to anyone specially those people who use this Universal Truth as a sheild to cover up their lustful mentality, their sinful activities and their demonic behavior and unfortunately we have such demons still in the form of ISKCON devotees.

They actually arent devotees but just wolves in sheep skin. Whatever they did to you and many of other kids of your age couldnt be justified in any way by the words what Krishna Spoke and Srila Prabhupada put forth in front of us.

They just made a mockery of the scriptures and this isnt new to the society, this used to be a practice in olden days when such so called Gurujis and Brahmacharis were treated as godsent and since ages Prominent people in ISKCON have been indulged in protecting these culprits of Krishna.

Dear Mataji, whoever did this to you was a demon, he had nothing to do with Krishna Consciosness seriously.

Krishna has everything planned for everybody, he is smartest of the smartest. Just to teach a lesson to Hiranyakshap he took a form of Lord Narsimha to whom even these demons feared. Trust him. He will never let you down. The way he never let me too. Now i want you to move ahead in your life, dont waste your precious life thinking about these demons. Let Krishna handle them.

Make the best out of the life given to you by Krishna. Krishna Consciousness means doing things for Krishna and keeping Krishna in mind whatever you do. All the rest are just formalities,. Dear Gurukul Vetern: I really said dear,because I try to send you love within my message. I deeply find very sorry what happened to you inside that prison-school. I find those shit-people to vomit.

I am sorry,but I am angry,too. They must pay for what they did to so many humans,like you and like me. I am sorry,again and again.

I apologize for your sufering just to try help you to feel a little better,my dear friend and wonderful devotee. Please,accept my sincere intentions to hug you in your desparated mind.

Please,accept that perhaps there are many real devotees who want justice for waht they did to you,my friend,my brave and sensitive devotee. I am sure there is an exit to your situation…an exit to the dark tunnel where you find yourself now. You need help and love…affection from the devotees.

I am ready to hear you,to read your messages,like a father,like a good friend…please,accept my openess to a nice friendship. Please,trust me. Only Krishna knows that I just want to give you some love and understanding as a human being. Your heart is still alive,my friend,please fight against bad thoughts of selfdestruction. You are important for devotees like me. You are a hero for me,because you are so strong to suffer all of that and dare to share this with us,devotees of Krishna and enemies of the new isckon,falsificated after Srila Prabhupada was put away of the original Sankirtan Movement.

They are killers,pimps,demons,very bad beasts. I am appaled at the horrific treatment that was metted out to you.. Please accept My prayers and deepest condolences..

Just like a few bad apples ruin the entire basket,these predators bring a bad name to our beautiful religion, There have been pedophiles in the Church too, but that doesnt mean that Christanity is a bad religion or that Lord Jesus Christ is responsible for all this filth..

Look my dear sister, stay strong and God will give you the strength to get through this. That being said, you should seek counselling and therapy; it does help. There are lots of beautiful and heart-warming stories in the Bhagwat that Will soothe your soul and help you find the inner peace and courage to fight on!! Hari Bol! The only thing I ould love to share with all u is that Krishna is not a copyright of iskcon people or any of its gurus or prabhus!!!!!

I have had many run-ins with them in the past and all of them left me feeling that this was nothing but forcing people. Recently my run in with their devotees have left me even biased against them. And the situation is such that you cannot refuse them without creating a scene. I do not think any scriptures endorses putting us in an awkward position and speaking of things out of turn.

Today morning the aunt asked me if i do japa. When I said yes she asked me to tell her my mantra. Now the mantra that i have received through diksha from my Guru is not to be shared by laymen, it can only be given to you by a guru.

When i told them this they indirectly ridiculed that a mantra cannot be powerful if it is so closely secreted from others. Practioners may be imperfect …. So no other option than to cry from the bottom of the heart only and only to Krishna and His Personal Associates for help…… Haribol. OMG , I have heared about gurukulis experiences before , but have never read something so sad ,so personal, so brave.

I admire u girl. I will not here mention u Krishna or gurus or anything ,but will just tell u that i hope u will find some strength in yourself to heal with time. Please do it ,i am sure you can.

Those asses who posed as devotees and then abused kids are pure shit of this world. No justification for that. Not by karma nor by maya, nor kali yuga! So dear , please hold on , i know i will remember you for life cuz you are a surviver ,even i dont now who u are. Now P. I totally understand her ,and this is not the time nor a place to preach to her.

She needs a closure. Later u got that krishna gave u those parents and u realized thats mercy ….. Or i didnt get u right? I presume u didnt have bad intention , but careful please. Krishna is the supreme , but he also understands her rage. And by the way ,didnt Prabhupada teach children to be taken away to gurukula at age of 3 4 ? But I know for a fact that growth is happening in other areas, and I would respectfully suggest to any ISKCON critic that he take certain factors into consideration.

But the fact of the matter is that the majority of new initiates neither live in our centres nor are they likely to do so. If temples are empty of visitors during the week, but bustling with Hindu families at the weekend, it can only be said that this will not be sustainable. Like every other human being, devotees get older by the day, and if the senior members in a particular ashram are not gradually replaced by exactly the same number of junior members or more then that ashram is looking towards extinction in a few short years.

If the majority of devotees do not currently live in ashrams, it would seem this is a trend that is likely to continue on into the future. As much as possible we must now collectively work in ways to support our local ashrams and help them to attract new ashram members. At the same time, new strategies are required to spiritually care for the majority Vaishnava community that dwell everywhere else. And the entire enterprise must be based on sharing the life and teachings of Krishna consciousness with others.

In places where some of the vital preaching elements are missing, it may be that a vital link in the chain of events bringing a new person to Krishna is missing. Sad to say, but in spite of all our best efforts with one form of preaching, we lose many people due to absences of other forms. Sometimes, all the elements were in place a decade ago, but since then, devotees left and their vital services never replaced.

When devotees leave a particular centre, often the skill, enthusiasm and determination for a particular preaching activity go with them.

The sankirtan leader goes to another temple and book distribution dies. Or the devotee who did the university speaking gets married, and the university society is allowed to close. Every leader in a particular activity must simultaneously be training someone else for the service. That devotees will leave is likely, and centres have to prepare for the inevitable. Morning News Bulletin. News by Religion. Factsheet: Iskcon and the Hare Krishna movement. Share on facebook.

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